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But, in general, it is possible but difficult to "force a switch".

why would someone want to abuse a tulpa?

And otherwise, you do need to give them control in the first place so they can learn initially.

like, hello, they're (theoretically?) an entirely different person

5:59 PM

that's inhumane

Some people dehumanize them, essentially saying that "it's okay, they aren't a person like me".

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I'll be back later.

Some people don't value tulpas in the same way, and absuing them isn't an incredibly difficult thing to do.

...what can you do to abuse a tulpa, even (besides saying mean things to them or devaluing them)?

ignoring them I suppose, sorry to but in

Some people create tulpas for the sake of having an imaginary fleshlight, others put tulpas through bad situations because they're treated the same as roleplay characters, etc.

okay

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so

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just bear with me

6:05 PM

sorry for probably asking werid questions

6:06 PM

but can you... love a tulpa? (not a sex euphemism) (wait, how does even "fucking" an imaginary being look/feel/etc. like (assuming it consents)?)

It's just imagination + masturbation

6:07 PM

people overglorify it

6:07 PM

you don't need a tulpa to do that

okay

Can you love a couch?

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Can you love yourself?

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Can you love a character?

6:08 PM

Humans can love most anything.

Well, you said it yourself - they're essentially just another human being, so you can love them just the same. Most people resort to simple visualization for that because not many people have achieved imposition.

well, maybe? probably? I've read a story where someone has legally married themselves in some obscure country?

Marriage != Love.

yeah, IK

6:09 PM

just an hyperbolic example

Irrelevant, but okay.

6:09 PM

What other questions do you have?

say, for example, if the host gets sick, does the tulpa percieve the effects too?

6:10 PM

(aka it feels kinda bad and stuff)

Depends, that's up to chance, really.

6:11 PM

Some tulpas say they get affected. Some say they don't. It's unverifiable, so it's not really worth investigating afaic.

6:12 PM

Same with drugs or other normal-state altering things.

k

6:13 PM

hmm yeah

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IDK

6:13 PM

I think I've covered pretty much everything I wanted to ask

6:13 PM

OH NO WAIT

6:13 PM

explain the idea of a wonderland to me

it's an imaginary environment you can use during forcing sessions with your tulpa

It's as simple as imagining your bedroom, doesn't take much effort at all.

oh

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okay

6:15 PM

so, you can imagine anything in it?

ya

It's your imagination so it's pretty much limitless, yeah.

Yeah.

hmm

6:20 PM

y'know, about the whole "brain as a computer thing"

6:21 PM

can you force stop any sort of interaction with your tulpa at any point? or only @ specific points?

6:22 PM

I'll explain that further if you wish for me to simplify it

Dont try and map computer stuff to brains, please.

6:22 PM

Personal preference. I don't think I speak for everyone here on this.

6:22 PM

It's incredibly frustrating to see, though.

a brain is a computer though... just a really werid one

You could say that for anything - a brain is like a washing machine, just a really weird one.

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If we understood the brain enough to make it reasonable to map that stuff to it in any sense outside of the armchair philosopher, then we'd have simulated brains.

6:24 PM

Until that point, no stranger thinking about tulpas on the internet is going to be qualified to talk about the subject, in my opinion.

I'm just doing it for fun and not profit

It's a net negative with respect to creating legitimately rigorous tulpa discourse, as far as I'm concerned.

6:26 PM

Hence why I made sure to disclaim this as a personal stance and not the general rule.

okay then

6:26 PM

I don't force you to participate, after all

6:26 PM

if my talking bothers you, you can mute this channel for a while

6:27 PM

I'll PM you when I'll stop computerizing brains

I mean it's not just him, it's annoying and unhelpful in general

...oh

Yeah, not trynna be a dick but I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, hence my voicing the opinion.

6:28 PM

It'd be different if I felt the community wasn't on a downward trend with respect to rigor. As it stands, though, we'll never amount to anything, at least in the academic sphere.

okay... I can stop talking about that if you wish... I'm sorry

6:30 PM

it's still cool though

6:31 PM

I think I'll rejoin this when the summer break starts though

6:31 PM

I'm going to leave for now

6:31 PM

it's not like you're bad or anything

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you're fun guys and stuff

Kappa

but yeah, I think I'll actively participate in that type of stuff later

6:32 PM

bye for now

Bye.

It's better to take time to decide whether or not this is for you anyway, yeah. See you.

I'm working on my first tulpa right now. 8 days into the process. I've been inventing and writing fictional characters for years now, so puppeting them feels natural. Except! I didn't give them a foundational personality or form. I understand that's more difficult and may take more time, but it's what I want. Here's my issue: while puppeting this untemplated entity, it will express emotions like curiosity and fear of bizarrely random things, but simplistic things. It really likes trees. It doesn't understand what rocks are made of and wants me to explain again. It doesn't like loud noises. It wants to throw objects in my mindscape. Etc. Simple things, but random. These simplistic almost childlike thoughts are interspersed with complex multifaceted lines of reasoning. Is that normal, or something unique to this tulpa? If it's just related to development, will these random actions and thoughts clear up as it nears sentience? (edited)

yeah those sound like traits of someone whose mind is still developing, they'll probably clear up and become less random over time

Are there alot of tulpamancers who hold tulpas as a spiritual phenomenon?

10:37 AM

Or who's tulpas are religious/believe in religions?

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Also, can one persons tulpa communicate with another's?

10:42 AM

Sorry I'll limit myself to 3 questions

There are, if you are interested in that sorta thing you can check out the metaphysics channel on this server #metaphysics

11:44 AM

A person's tulpa can communicate with another tulpa exactly how a person can communicate to another person. For example, what I am doing right now to communicate with you. I am not sure about the metaphysical side of things though, if you choose to believe in that.

11:45 AM

Some tulpa are religious and will sometimes hold differing religious beliefs from their host (edited)

Thanks!

A tulpa fulfills a need for companionship in someone's life, but it seems like those of us who are lacking there are usually equally lacking in community and purpose

1:03 AM

Like purpose in a community of individuals

I'd agree with you there. I know i do

If only there was some community to be a part of to go along with tulpamancy

My goal is to find said purpose

Sorry, I mean to say that in a fun way rather than in a bad way, this place is as good as any if you want a place to hang around

From my limited knowledge it seems that tulpamancers of a sort in modern day who have tried to fill this too, by banding and living together, havent been very successful. However the origin of tulpas, in Tibetan buddhism and mysticism, seems to be inextricably linked with a strong sense of physical community, the original tulpamancers being monks who lived together